Donald Trump has put the crimes of Islam front line and center with many people again. And yes, Islam is in trouble. It’s meeting with modernity is not going well. The Middle East is in flames.
However, there are various claims going around about Islam that just aren’t correct. They don’t do justice to the religion and it’s centuries old history.
I have spent my adult life finding inspiration in all religious systems, including Islam and Christianity. It does justice to neither tradition to reduce them to their most violent and least tolerant exponents.
This post uses Wikipedia as it’s main source, but it’s also based on my knowledge of both religions through my study of them at Leiden University as well as various online sources that I consider reliable.
The main tenets of Islam are the five pillars of Islam. Copied from wikipedia (as good a source as any):
- 1.1Shahada: Faith (in One God, called Allah – Allah is also what Arab Christians call God).
- 1.2Salat: Prayer, five times a day
- 1.3Zakāt: Charity
- 1.4Sawm: Fasting, during the month of Ramadan.
- 1.5Hajj: Pilgrimage to Mecca, once in a lifetime.
As you can see: there is no mention on this list of killing anybody.
Test yourself about your knowledge of Islam (as Muslims see it) here. And if you think I made up this idea of a tolerant peaceful Islam, do see my review of a very modern Punk version of Islam. The review was VERY popular on Facebook. I think it is my most shared article all over my sites. I presume it was popular with young Muslims looking for a modern version of Islam that is NOT violent.
Religious Violence in Christianity and Islam
The main worry of my Facebook friends seems to be the treatment of Christians in the Middle East. Unfortunately, this is a legitimate worry. However, the very fact that these traditional Christian communities (*) survived so long tells it’s own story. It is modern interpretations of Islam that’s the problem, not Islam itself.
Traditionally Christianity and Judaism were protected in the Middle East because they were ‘people of the book‘. In fact, the Torah and Bible are considered sacred in Islam.
Islam, like Christianity, is subject to many interpretations. In Christianity there is Catholicism and Protestantism. Protestantism is in turn a fragmented world – Amish to very liberal.
Readers from the US may remember that the Pilgrims, some of the most prominent settlers in the US, fled Christian Europe because of religious persecution. And since all of Europe was Christian at that time (Catholic or some variation of Protestant), this was inter-Christian persecution.
Islam can be divided into two as well: Sunni and Shia. Relations between those two have always been strained and the current upheavals in the region have certainly not helped.
Within both there are all sorts of variations – and like in Christianity, they vary from very traditional to very liberal. There are Muslim women who wear a veil, but also many who don’t. There are Muslim women who wear complete body and face hiding clothing -most wear clothing that does show the face.
More about Violence in Christianity, and more on wikipedia
The most blatant examples of violence in Christianity are (From that Wikipedia article):
- The Inquisition
- The Crusades
- Colonialism (in the name of conversion)
- Violence against women
Slavery in Christianity and Islam
Christian views on slavery are varied both regionally and historically. Slavery in various forms has been a part of the social environment for much of Christianity’s history, spanning well over eighteen centuries. In the early years of Christianity, slavery was a normal feature of the economy and society in the Roman Empire, and this persisted in different forms and with regional differences well into the Middle Ages.
Most Christian figures in that early period such as Saint Augustine opposed it as being against the Creator’s original just design of the world which had initially included the basic equality of all human beings as good creatures made in God’s image and likeness. In the eighteenth century (in the context of a particularly savage and rapacious slave system), the abolition movement took shape among Christian people across the globe.
In the eighteenth and nineteenth century debates in the UK and the US passages in the Bible were used by both pro-slavery advocates and abolitionists to support their respective views.
Islamic views on slavery first developed out of the slavery practices of pre-Islamic Arabia, and were at times radically different, depending on social-political factors such as the Arab slave trade.
In Islamic law, the topic of slavery is covered at great length. The Quran (the holy book) and the hadith (the sayings of Muhammad) see slavery as being allowed, but only as an exceptional condition that can be entered into under certain limited circumstances. Only children of slaves or non-Muslim prisoners of war could become slaves, never a freeborn Muslim. They also consider freeing of a slave to be one of many meritorious deeds available for the expiation of sins. According to Sharia, slaves are considered human beings and possessed some rights on the basis of their humanity. In addition, a Muslim slave is equal to a Muslim freeman in religious issues and superior to the free non-Muslim.
Based on this it’s as realistic to blame all of Islam for the violence in the Middle East, as it is to blame Christianity for all the slavery Christians perpetrated till it became illegal in most Western countries.
Troubling Bible quotes that most Christians don’t take seriously (Thankfully)
What we hear of Islam is mostly the violent minority. It’s a bit like judging the Democratic party by the Bernie Sanders protesters. Just because they shout hardest, doesn’t mean they represent the rest.
And since Islam is apparently going to be judged on the basis of every little controversial bit in the Quran, let’s turn the tables and focus on troubling passages in the Bible.
There is “Though shalt not allow a sorceress to live“, which would currently be interpreted to include Wiccans and neo-Pagans.
There is incest in the Bible. There is ‘an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth’. And in the New Testament we find Paul saying that women should stay silent in church.
Forced conversion in Islam?
The Qur’an clearly states:
“There is no compulsion in religion, the path of guidance stands out clear from error” [2:256] and [60:8]. [source]
Historically it is clear that forced conversion was the exception, not the rule. In Egypt for instance, 10% of the population is Christian. Even today they are not being killed off.
In India, during centuries of Muslim rule, Hindu’s and Muslims lived together reasonably peacefully. The amount of conversion that happened can be deduced from the fact that the majority of the population remained Hindu, even though it hosts one of the largest populations of Muslims. [Indonesia is first in that respect]
When the USA loses it’s respect for one of it’s founding principles: freedom of religion, it loses all right to consider itself ‘great’. Freedom of religion is a right that came into being for a reason: the religion a person has does not determine their worth. It’s their actions, their words, the quality of their heart that does.
Let’s remember that among Muslims too, there are people of worth. Forcing Muslims in the defensive is only likely to lead to more religious violence, so even from a practical perspective it just doesn’t help to leave religious freedom behind.
*) These Christian communities are as traditional as they come: they go all the way back to the first Christian missionaries, Paul and his colleagues.
7 thoughts on “Christianity vs Islam. Violence vs Peace?”
An excellent, very informative discussion in this post. Clearly ‘religion’ has a history on all sides that pointing fingers is almost laughable if the aftermath wasn’t as grave as it appears to be in today’s world.
If you conclude that Islam doesn’t teach violence from the fact that this isn’t part of its ‘Five Pillars’, it would be honest to arrive at the same conclusion for Christianity from the fact that this isn’t part of its Nicene Creed. Please compare same with same.
The five pillars are far more central to the practice of Islam than the Nicene Creed is to Christianity.
Hi Katinka. Yes, if you go “by the book” there should be no violence in either Islam or Christianity against one another. But there is. And this arise out of religious prejudice. Believers in both groups are not as sophisticated as those who read and carefully weigh the scriptures of both groups. Much of the devotees of both groups (I do not even want to call the two as “religions” because their devotees do not behave as “religious”) do not read their respective scriptures. They rely on preachers, and the interpretation of their leaders – who might have political agenda. What is sad is that ordinary devotees have prejudices against each other due, perhaps, to a misunderstanding of history and of practices. For instance, in Southern Philippines – an area of mostly Muslims – the Christian settlers, though they bought their lands, are seen as taking advantage of the Muslims when the Christians came. OK, so there are abuses on the part of the Shristian settlers, also on the part of the early American/Filipino government officials. Now, in 2016, and since two decades ago, this differences has escalated to the tune of the Muslims having an army of their own and fighting the government army. And the issues have been muddled to the extent that it has become a conflict between Islam and Christianity. The Muslim communities, also, in the South, are relatively underdeveloped. So, Christians see them as backward, and unsanitary. Etc. From one prejudice to another.
The radical side of any religion is not the path to anywhere good. Having stated that, it must be acknowledged that radical elements will not give a fig if you are a good and peaceful person before they attempt to harm you. I think that is where good-hearted people get hung up.
In the US the liberals think if we are ‘nice’ to the radicals, everything will be OK.
Mr Trump has never stated that he will deport any Muslim person. He simply says that those that want to come to the US should be checked thoroughly.
Unfortunately – Trump doesn’t sound nearly as reasonable as you do here.
Your point is precisely mine (except I would never support Trump) : nothing extra needs to be done to deal with violent Muslims. Existing measures are enough. They won’t prevent every incident, but that is inevitable.
The problem is that Trump’s rhetoric (and any policy specifically aimed at Muslims) will only antagonize Muslims. And that has the result that more of them will feel trapped and unwelcome, which leads to violence. For every attack you prevent with extra security, three more will be plotted because the extra security means more discrimination and less fairness. What’s happening in France is precisely the scenario I’m most scared of.
It’s far more rational and efficient to deal with any criminals – whatever their religion – and let peaceful people (of whatever faith) deal with their lives the best way they can without interference.
Yes, the old saying is true “The price of liberty is eternal vigilance” ( usually attributed to Thomas Jefferson )
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