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		<title>By: Katinka - Spirituality</title>
		<link>http://www.allconsidering.com/2010/karma-bhagavad-gita/comment-page-1/#comment-26902</link>
		<dc:creator>Katinka - Spirituality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 06:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t believe in blaming the text for the actions of believers. The Bhagavad Gita is about the eternal struggle between accepting what is, and doing something about it. It also teaches that there will be justice in the end. As such, the killer of Gandhi simply did not understand the Gita well enough. Anyhow, Gandhi himself was inspired by the Gita too - so it apparently goes both ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe in blaming the text for the actions of believers. The Bhagavad Gita is about the eternal struggle between accepting what is, and doing something about it. It also teaches that there will be justice in the end. As such, the killer of Gandhi simply did not understand the Gita well enough. Anyhow, Gandhi himself was inspired by the Gita too &#8211; so it apparently goes both ways.</p>
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		<title>By: Al Wloch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al Wloch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 05:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The name Krishna in Sanskrit means black or the colour of the night sky or ocean. In India most idols of Krishna are in black, but why the sky blue? The language of Buddha was Dravidian and not Sanskrit based. The Dravidian based are dark and live in southern India. The horse and chariot were introduced into India by a light-skinned people - the Aryan Indo-European connection. The young Hindu, Nathuram Godses, who shot and killed Mahatma Gandhi carried a copy of the Baghavadgita to his trial. True followers of Krishna were not to compromise with other religions but had to remain orthodox; in fact Srila Prabhupada before founding the Hare Krishna in America when he was young and unknown had written Gandhi just a month or so before, forewarning him to dispense with compromising with the Muslims and Christians in the creation of the India Republic and to seek a Krishna guru ... or else!
This is what the brother of Nathuram uttered: &quot;Yes! I Killed Mohandas Gandhi and I am Glad I Did It!
That is what Gopal Godse said as he prepares for his final vindication, the election of India&#039;s first ultra-Hindu nationalist government.
Gopal Godse spent 18 years in prison for his role in the assassination of Mahatma Gandhi. His brother and one other conspirator were hanged by the neck until dead.
But it was all worth it, says Gopal Godse.
Now these conspirators, who to this day are celebrated by strict Hindus, took the literal advise of the sky-blue coloured Krishna and did the work or karma that Arjuna was instructed to perform without one idle thought. Another odd thing if one investigates is that at age nine Krishna killed his uncle who he termed a demon. Now to the orthodox Hindus the followers of Islam or Buddhism, etc. are tantamount to being demons. Why else were the Buddhists driven out of India by the Hindus? Sri Lanka, an island, became one of the refuges for the dark-skinned non-Sanskrit based believers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The name Krishna in Sanskrit means black or the colour of the night sky or ocean. In India most idols of Krishna are in black, but why the sky blue? The language of Buddha was Dravidian and not Sanskrit based. The Dravidian based are dark and live in southern India. The horse and chariot were introduced into India by a light-skinned people &#8211; the Aryan Indo-European connection. The young Hindu, Nathuram Godses, who shot and killed Mahatma Gandhi carried a copy of the Baghavadgita to his trial. True followers of Krishna were not to compromise with other religions but had to remain orthodox; in fact Srila Prabhupada before founding the Hare Krishna in America when he was young and unknown had written Gandhi just a month or so before, forewarning him to dispense with compromising with the Muslims and Christians in the creation of the India Republic and to seek a Krishna guru &#8230; or else!<br />
This is what the brother of Nathuram uttered: &#8220;Yes! I Killed Mohandas Gandhi and I am Glad I Did It!</p>
<p>That is what Gopal Godse said as he prepares for his final vindication, the election of India&#8217;s first ultra-Hindu nationalist government.<br />
Gopal Godse spent 18 years in prison for his role in the assassination of Mahatma Gandhi. His brother and one other conspirator were hanged by the neck until dead.<br />
But it was all worth it, says Gopal Godse.</p>
<p>Now these conspirators, who to this day are celebrated by strict Hindus, took the literal advise of the sky-blue coloured Krishna and did the work or karma that Arjuna was instructed to perform without one idle thought. Another odd thing if one investigates is that at age nine Krishna killed his uncle who he termed a demon. Now to the orthodox Hindus the followers of Islam or Buddhism, etc. are tantamount to being demons. Why else were the Buddhists driven out of India by the Hindus? Sri Lanka, an island, became one of the refuges for the dark-skinned non-Sanskrit based believers.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 11:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kim McGinnis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim McGinnis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 14:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have always been fascinated with karma, and believe it is a natural occurrence stemming from our thoughts, words and actions, whether they be good or bad. I read a book recently called &quot;Wake Up! Your Life is Calling,&quot; by a man named Andy Feld. I mention this book because the author talked a lot about self responsibility, and I believe that when people take responsibility for their karma they are taking responsibility for the lives they create.
thanks for listening,
kim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always been fascinated with karma, and believe it is a natural occurrence stemming from our thoughts, words and actions, whether they be good or bad. I read a book recently called &#8220;Wake Up! Your Life is Calling,&#8221; by a man named Andy Feld. I mention this book because the author talked a lot about self responsibility, and I believe that when people take responsibility for their karma they are taking responsibility for the lives they create.<br />
thanks for listening,<br />
kim</p>
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		<title>By: Katinka - Spirituality</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katinka - Spirituality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Satish Bhat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Satish Bhat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 03:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Katinka
I did not realize that my expressions were on the border of moderation. I just wrote out whatever came to my mind. In fact, to be moderate in whatever one does is an important message of Bhagavad Gita (verse 6.7). It just shows how much more I have to travel. Not only I must get exposed to the messages, I must also assimilate them and express them as my own. Yes, that is the formula – exposure, assimilation and expression. One thing is sure – it is fun all along.
Dear Katinka, thanx for pointing out my lapses so kindly. I may not be able to write as well as you do – but, I can surely admire those of you who are doing it so well. Through your web, you are doing a good job – helping those who want such help. As for me, even if I do not fare as well – it matters not. My joy is in doing my karma – it is prevalent both in success and failure – which, incidentally, is another message of Bhagavad Gita (verse 2.48).
Keep up your good work.
Satish</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Katinka<br />
I did not realize that my expressions were on the border of moderation. I just wrote out whatever came to my mind. In fact, to be moderate in whatever one does is an important message of Bhagavad Gita (verse 6.7). It just shows how much more I have to travel. Not only I must get exposed to the messages, I must also assimilate them and express them as my own. Yes, that is the formula – exposure, assimilation and expression. One thing is sure – it is fun all along.<br />
Dear Katinka, thanx for pointing out my lapses so kindly. I may not be able to write as well as you do – but, I can surely admire those of you who are doing it so well. Through your web, you are doing a good job – helping those who want such help. As for me, even if I do not fare as well – it matters not. My joy is in doing my karma – it is prevalent both in success and failure – which, incidentally, is another message of Bhagavad Gita (verse 2.48).</p>
<p>Keep up your good work.<br />
Satish</p>
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		<title>By: Satish Bhat</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 10:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Katinka
You have a joyful way of presenting your thoughts which has filled me with equal joy. And yes, may folks like you continue to inspire the rest - the mundane and the under privileged. About Bhagavad Gita --
For Arjuna it was a dilemma of killing his own grandfather and teacher (Bheeshma and Drona). That was a relative or particular issue of Arjuna alone. It cannot be understood by this, that Bhagavad Gita deals with war! In fact, at many places in Bhagavad Gita Krishna advocates ahimsa – non-violence. Then the question arises – what is the relevance of this case to us? (chapter 2 &amp; 3)
Arjuna had to do something and he did not like to do it. In life, I am always torn between what I ‘like to do’ and what is ‘right to do’. If the two match, well and good. More often, they are different or even contradictory. This results in conflicts of propriety. How to overcome my ‘likes and dislikes’ and be given to the path of ‘right and wrong’ is the message of Bhagavad Gita. (chapter 3 &amp; 4)
For that, Krishna brings the concept of Soul. In its absolute level, the Soul acts not and it enjoys not. It is above the body, mind and intelligence. At the same time, it is the repository of all joy. From this, one has to draw and unearth and also harness the inner potentials and rise above the ordinary. (chapter 2)
There is a way of acting without getting afflicted by the actions or by the results – even if the path be arduous and results negative. This secret of becoming independent of results and deriving joy of actions when the actions are current, in progress, is the message of Bhagavad Gita. (chapter 3)
All joy is inner – mind based. There is a way of drawing that joy incessantly, like drinking nectar, without any effort. It is joy of meditation. This makes one free of external, sensory thrills. One becomes free. This is the message of Bhagavad Gita. (chapter 6)
Nowhere in Bhagavad Gita Krishna advocates worshipping God, as an external deity. Instead, he says – find Him in the visible world, right in front of your own eyes. It leads one to sovereign, secular life. This is the message of Bhagavad Gita. (chapter 7)
Devotion belongs to the devotee. It has nothing to do with God. The qualities that a devotee should cultivate and express are more important than the worship he performs. These qualities, enumerated in Bhagavad Gita, Krishna says will make a devotee dear to God! This is the message of Bhagavad Gita.  (chapter 12)
Human fulfillment lies in discovering the inner potential. He who discovers that he has a body, mind and intelligence and hence is beyond the body, mind and intelligence is free – this is the message of Bhagavad Gita. (chapter 13, 15 &amp; 18)
Enjoy that freedom – that absoluteness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Katinka </p>
<p>You have a joyful way of presenting your thoughts which has filled me with equal joy. And yes, may folks like you continue to inspire the rest &#8211; the mundane and the under privileged. About Bhagavad Gita &#8212;  </p>
<p>For Arjuna it was a dilemma of killing his own grandfather and teacher (Bheeshma and Drona). That was a relative or particular issue of Arjuna alone. It cannot be understood by this, that Bhagavad Gita deals with war! In fact, at many places in Bhagavad Gita Krishna advocates ahimsa – non-violence. Then the question arises – what is the relevance of this case to us? (chapter 2 &amp; 3)</p>
<p>Arjuna had to do something and he did not like to do it. In life, I am always torn between what I ‘like to do’ and what is ‘right to do’. If the two match, well and good. More often, they are different or even contradictory. This results in conflicts of propriety. How to overcome my ‘likes and dislikes’ and be given to the path of ‘right and wrong’ is the message of Bhagavad Gita. (chapter 3 &amp; 4)</p>
<p>For that, Krishna brings the concept of Soul. In its absolute level, the Soul acts not and it enjoys not. It is above the body, mind and intelligence. At the same time, it is the repository of all joy. From this, one has to draw and unearth and also harness the inner potentials and rise above the ordinary. (chapter 2)</p>
<p>There is a way of acting without getting afflicted by the actions or by the results – even if the path be arduous and results negative. This secret of becoming independent of results and deriving joy of actions when the actions are current, in progress, is the message of Bhagavad Gita. (chapter 3)</p>
<p>All joy is inner – mind based. There is a way of drawing that joy incessantly, like drinking nectar, without any effort. It is joy of meditation. This makes one free of external, sensory thrills. One becomes free. This is the message of Bhagavad Gita. (chapter 6)</p>
<p>Nowhere in Bhagavad Gita Krishna advocates worshipping God, as an external deity. Instead, he says – find Him in the visible world, right in front of your own eyes. It leads one to sovereign, secular life. This is the message of Bhagavad Gita. (chapter 7)</p>
<p>Devotion belongs to the devotee. It has nothing to do with God. The qualities that a devotee should cultivate and express are more important than the worship he performs. These qualities, enumerated in Bhagavad Gita, Krishna says will make a devotee dear to God! This is the message of Bhagavad Gita.  (chapter 12)</p>
<p>Human fulfillment lies in discovering the inner potential. He who discovers that he has a body, mind and intelligence and hence is beyond the body, mind and intelligence is free – this is the message of Bhagavad Gita. (chapter 13, 15 &amp; 18)</p>
<p>Enjoy that freedom – that absoluteness.</p>
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		<title>By: Narmatha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Narmatha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 17:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an interesting topic...
This is my understanding of Karma - Karma is actions... Every living being is bound to do Karma and we cannot avoid Karma... even saints perform Karma ( example breating that it self is action which is karma)...
From what I read and understand .... Krishna is talking to Arjuna about the ( Niskaama Karma) that is reaching the supreme by doing your duty... A lot of yogi&#039;s and saints ( in india) refrain themselves from Karma ( that is doing action &quot; Wordly duties&quot;)... But, Krishna is teaching Arjuna how to reach without refraining from &#039;Worldly duties&quot;...
Aof question here
1) Is killing OKAY then?  - Killing is not okay ( What is happening in the story is battle between Dharma and Adharma - Arjuna is born to destry Adharma, therefore that is his duty and he shouldn&#039;t run away from it .. but he should perform the karma without bonding to the fruits of the action...)
Beautiful topic and blog...enjoyed reading..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an interesting topic&#8230; </p>
<p>This is my understanding of Karma &#8211; Karma is actions&#8230; Every living being is bound to do Karma and we cannot avoid Karma&#8230; even saints perform Karma ( example breating that it self is action which is karma)&#8230; </p>
<p>From what I read and understand &#8230;. Krishna is talking to Arjuna about the ( Niskaama Karma) that is reaching the supreme by doing your duty&#8230; A lot of yogi&#8217;s and saints ( in india) refrain themselves from Karma ( that is doing action &#8221; Wordly duties&#8221;)&#8230; But, Krishna is teaching Arjuna how to reach without refraining from &#8216;Worldly duties&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>Aof question here<br />
1) Is killing OKAY then?  &#8211; Killing is not okay ( What is happening in the story is battle between Dharma and Adharma &#8211; Arjuna is born to destry Adharma, therefore that is his duty and he shouldn&#8217;t run away from it .. but he should perform the karma without bonding to the fruits of the action&#8230;)</p>
<p>Beautiful topic and blog&#8230;enjoyed reading..</p>
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		<title>By: Katinka - Spirituality</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katinka - Spirituality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 11:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that&#039;s rather a worrisome attitude. I can understand not identifying with the action, but to conclude that it doesn&#039;t matter WHAT we do, is a totally different issue.
I mean - what happens with karma then? Doesn&#039;t that imply we&#039;re not responsible, that it doesn&#039;t matter at all whether we act right or wrong?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that&#8217;s rather a worrisome attitude. I can understand not identifying with the action, but to conclude that it doesn&#8217;t matter WHAT we do, is a totally different issue. </p>
<p>I mean &#8211; what happens with karma then? Doesn&#8217;t that imply we&#8217;re not responsible, that it doesn&#8217;t matter at all whether we act right or wrong?</p>
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