Comments on: Jiddu Krishnamurti and theosophy (and occultism)

By: chetan

chetan — Sun, 14 Aug 2011 21:24:39 +0000

I am looking for information on what exactly was done with krishnamurti by leadbeater and anne besant. i beleive that there were no masters who worked on him but i beleive that krishnamurti underwent some yogic practices which he never spoke about. yogic practices before enlightenment may have given him hallucinations of masters and after enlightenment he understood them well. still then i would be interested to know any literature resource that fulfills my query.

By: katinka - spiritual

katinka - spiritual — Tue, 26 May 2009 07:32:16 +0000

You picked up Krishnamurti’s central message in a blogpost about one of the side tracks

Yes, finding a path that fits you’re real YOU (however hard to define) does clear up a lot of confusion. Though in my experience it’s not an all or nothing process. Getting closer to your real you, some kinds of confusion end, others keep on going.

By: Alan Furth

Alan Furth — Tue, 26 May 2009 01:15:57 +0000

“Extrasensory perception, clairvoyance, occult powers, cannot free thought from confusion and misery; sensitive awareness of our thoughts and motives, from which spring our speech and action, is the beginning of lasting understanding and love.”

I’d say that this quote makes perfects sense at a more basic level of personal development. I recently had an epiphany of sorts as after stepping out of a business that wasn’t in line with my most important values, convictions and interests. This of course immersed me in a state of “confusion and misery” that completely dampened my “sensitive awareness of our thoughts and motives” to a point where I had no idea what I wanted to do with my life after quitting this business… which paralyzed my initiative to quit, in a vicious circle…

When I finally quit the business the confusion and misery disappeared and my awareness of what I wanted to do started to come back… It felt as if I was “remembering” my long lost passions and motives, and it all made sense again.

Thank you, great quote!

By: katinka - spiritual

katinka - spiritual — Sun, 24 May 2009 08:28:33 +0000

I think that’s what I said, actually.

By: mark walter

mark walter — Sat, 23 May 2009 06:03:04 +0000

But in the context of this biography it is clear that while he doesn’t think clairvoyance is very important, he does NOT deny it’s existence. Or even that it is part of his own life. Just not worth talking about publicly.

I read that quote a bit differently. I don’t see him as devaluing clairvoyance in and of itself. Rather, he is pointing out that ‘occult powers’, renunciation, self-control, etc. are not the key or essential focus points for the student. Clearly we encounter these things, and more, along the path. But the essential elements, he says, include awareness and the ability to stay flexible, i.e., an open mind and an open heart. And, he adds, it is essential that we begin by bringing deeper awareness and “flexibility’ into our daily life applications.

I completely agree with his statements.