Comments on: Environmentally aware – spiritual virtue no. 7 http://www.allconsidering.com/2009/environmentally/ Considering life, spiritual growth and more ponderings Mon, 22 Mar 2010 08:39:04 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: David Melik http://www.allconsidering.com/2009/environmentally/comment-page-1/#comment-373 David Melik Sun, 19 Apr 2009 13:14:19 +0000 http://www.allconsidering.com/?p=526#comment-373 I agree; now enough electricity use by me in this section.... I agree; now enough electricity use by me in this section….

]]> By: katinka - spirituality http://www.allconsidering.com/2009/environmentally/comment-page-1/#comment-372 katinka - spirituality Wed, 18 Feb 2009 09:13:26 +0000 http://www.allconsidering.com/?p=526#comment-372 I had never heard of 2012 mixed in with this, but I guess it doesn't surprise me. Some climate experts do say that the current things we are seeing may be due to other causes (like sunspots, or the planet being closer to the sun than before), but they are a minority. On balance I agree with you: there is a lot of evidence we've been dumping stuff in that atmosphere and there is good reason to believe that will have effects. Fighting those effects and preventing further pollution is going to be hard enough without denying the problem in the first place. I think that insight is why there are so few people in the middle on this one: either we go on as before and continue polluting, or we really change things. The practice is (at best) going to be halfway on this, but in order for there to be enough change, the environmental camp does have to bring their message rather forcefully. After all - the full forces of greed are against them. And greed is probably the main sin of our century. I had never heard of 2012 mixed in with this, but I guess it doesn’t surprise me. Some climate experts do say that the current things we are seeing may be due to other causes (like sunspots, or the planet being closer to the sun than before), but they are a minority. On balance I agree with you: there is a lot of evidence we’ve been dumping stuff in that atmosphere and there is good reason to believe that will have effects.
Fighting those effects and preventing further pollution is going to be hard enough without denying the problem in the first place. I think that insight is why there are so few people in the middle on this one: either we go on as before and continue polluting, or we really change things. The practice is (at best) going to be halfway on this, but in order for there to be enough change, the environmental camp does have to bring their message rather forcefully. After all – the full forces of greed are against them. And greed is probably the main sin of our century.

]]> By: Jim Clark http://www.allconsidering.com/2009/environmentally/comment-page-1/#comment-371 Jim Clark Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:13:08 +0000 http://www.allconsidering.com/?p=526#comment-371 Hi Katinka, I gather you've heard about the fires of here in OZ, they have been incredible, we've never had weather like this before (a full week over 40 DEG). I must say the idea that climate change is linked to the Mayan calendar with the alignment of 2012 affecting our sun and hence our planet to be quite interesting and it does seem to have some strong evidence. I am not an expert on this however, and yes the standard model of man-made climate change seems to make sense. One way or another, we need to do something about pollution, whether or not it is causing climate change, it is natural to assume that environmental destruction will create side-effects one way or another. Humans have treated the environment as a bottomless pit since the start of the industrial revolution, and now we are paying the price. Also, many people have become polarized, taking extreme views left and right rather then being balanced and reasonable about it. Yes technology is wonderfull, but so is nature. God Bless, Hari Om Hi Katinka,
I gather you’ve heard about the fires of here in OZ, they have been incredible, we’ve never had weather like this before (a full week over 40 DEG). I must say the idea that climate change is linked to the Mayan calendar with the alignment of 2012 affecting our sun and hence our planet to be quite interesting and it does seem to have some strong evidence. I am not an expert on this however, and yes the standard model of man-made climate change seems to make sense.

One way or another, we need to do something about pollution, whether or not it is causing climate change, it is natural to assume that environmental destruction will create side-effects one way or another. Humans have treated the environment as a bottomless pit since the start of the industrial revolution, and now we are paying the price. Also, many people have become polarized, taking extreme views left and right rather then being balanced and reasonable about it. Yes technology is wonderfull, but so is nature.

God Bless,
Hari Om

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