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	<title>Comments on: Upward, downward and pluralistic causation</title>
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		<title>By: Katinka - Spirituality</title>
		<link>http://www.allconsidering.com/2009/causation-upward-downward/comment-page-1/#comment-27743</link>
		<dc:creator>Katinka - Spirituality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 08:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think my explanation was clearly a bit misleading (and simplistic).

In this case consciousness is defined to include everything not-physical: the divine is included. God can&#039;t be defined, obviously-  but It can still be postulated as the source of everything, which is what Amit Goswami does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think my explanation was clearly a bit misleading (and simplistic).</p>
<p>In this case consciousness is defined to include everything not-physical: the divine is included. God can&#8217;t be defined, obviously-  but It can still be postulated as the source of everything, which is what Amit Goswami does.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 06:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>from my point of view the idea that  consciousness is the first cause is 180 degrees off base.

beyond consciousness is infinite awareness which is infinite intelligence.

now we cannot define this infinite for to define infinite is to limit infinite..&#039;

therefore &quot;God&quot; cannot be defined.

what do you think???????

I know it appears that consciousness causes awareness but appearances can be very deceiving.

with the evolution of consciousness process we advance in awareness not consciousness.

consciousness is a flow  of thoughts. our level of   awarenss determines the quality of our flow of thoughts.

what do you think??????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from my point of view the idea that  consciousness is the first cause is 180 degrees off base.</p>
<p>beyond consciousness is infinite awareness which is infinite intelligence.</p>
<p>now we cannot define this infinite for to define infinite is to limit infinite..&#8217;</p>
<p>therefore &#8220;God&#8221; cannot be defined.</p>
<p>what do you think???????</p>
<p>I know it appears that consciousness causes awareness but appearances can be very deceiving.</p>
<p>with the evolution of consciousness process we advance in awareness not consciousness.</p>
<p>consciousness is a flow  of thoughts. our level of   awarenss determines the quality of our flow of thoughts.</p>
<p>what do you think??????</p>
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		<title>By: Katinka - Spirituality</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katinka - Spirituality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 07:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dan,

I think it&#039;s perfectly reasonable to accept you don&#039;t know all the answers, even for a philosopher :) 

Yes, I was very happily surprised to to read this philosophy student starting about pluralistic causality. Hadn&#039;t heard it before either. However, there is the issue of: how does it all come together into ONE world? And Blavatsky does talk of a &#039;first cause&#039; - I&#039;m planning to go into all that next week (if I don&#039;t get side tracked).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dan,</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s perfectly reasonable to accept you don&#8217;t know all the answers, even for a philosopher <img src='http://www.allconsidering.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Yes, I was very happily surprised to to read this philosophy student starting about pluralistic causality. Hadn&#8217;t heard it before either. However, there is the issue of: how does it all come together into ONE world? And Blavatsky does talk of a &#8216;first cause&#8217; &#8211; I&#8217;m planning to go into all that next week (if I don&#8217;t get side tracked).</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.allconsidering.com/2009/causation-upward-downward/comment-page-1/#comment-632</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Pluralistic causality&quot; has a name! Alright!

I&#039;ve thought along those lines myself, it&#039;s neat to be able to label it now. I&#039;ve never understood people who seem to think that either &quot;spirit&quot; or &quot;matter&quot; have a monopoly on causality. I think I stand close to where Descartes stands. I see them as possibly two sides of the same coin, two modes of manifestation of the same &quot;stuff.&quot; I&#039;ve read that the &quot;mind-body problem&quot; never concerned Descartes--that he just kind of accepted that the two work together as a whole somehow, without feeling the need to explain how. Kind of a dubious position for a philosopher, but I forgive it.    :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Pluralistic causality&#8221; has a name! Alright!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve thought along those lines myself, it&#8217;s neat to be able to label it now. I&#8217;ve never understood people who seem to think that either &#8220;spirit&#8221; or &#8220;matter&#8221; have a monopoly on causality. I think I stand close to where Descartes stands. I see them as possibly two sides of the same coin, two modes of manifestation of the same &#8220;stuff.&#8221; I&#8217;ve read that the &#8220;mind-body problem&#8221; never concerned Descartes&#8211;that he just kind of accepted that the two work together as a whole somehow, without feeling the need to explain how. Kind of a dubious position for a philosopher, but I forgive it.    <img src='http://www.allconsidering.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Katinka - Spirituality</title>
		<link>http://www.allconsidering.com/2009/causation-upward-downward/comment-page-1/#comment-613</link>
		<dc:creator>Katinka - Spirituality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 05:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi - those are very big questions - I think one might at least say spirit is related to meaning. Other than that, I don&#039;t have answers for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi &#8211; those are very big questions &#8211; I think one might at least say spirit is related to meaning. Other than that, I don&#8217;t have answers for you.</p>
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		<title>By: richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 00:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>3 ? and a comment related to &quot; .... pluralistic causation&quot;
How do you define spirit? 
Where might reality be?
What does mind not influence?

Several seems okay.

Thank you for this blog of yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3 ? and a comment related to &#8221; &#8230;. pluralistic causation&#8221;<br />
How do you define spirit?<br />
Where might reality be?<br />
What does mind not influence?</p>
<p>Several seems okay.</p>
<p>Thank you for this blog of yours.</p>
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