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	<title>Comments on: The origin of evil – the great mystery</title>
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		<title>By: Jim Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 21:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi again, my above comment should have said &quot;material life cant be meaningfull WITHOUT Maya&quot;, sorry for the mistake, although I think you understood me.
God Bless,
Hari Om</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi again, my above comment should have said &#8220;material life cant be meaningfull WITHOUT Maya&#8221;, sorry for the mistake, although I think you understood me.<br />
God Bless,<br />
Hari Om</p>
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		<title>By: katinka - spiritual</title>
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		<dc:creator>katinka - spiritual</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 11:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure: that&#039;s the definition of Maya isn&#039;t it - it&#039;s everything that doesn&#039;t last... which is just about everything we can point to.
[added for those who aren&#039;t familiar with Hindu/Vedanta philosophic definitions.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure: that&#8217;s the definition of Maya isn&#8217;t it &#8211; it&#8217;s everything that doesn&#8217;t last&#8230; which is just about everything we can point to.</p>
<p>[added for those who aren't familiar with Hindu/Vedanta philosophic definitions.]</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Clark</title>
		<link>http://www.allconsidering.com/2008/origin-of-evil/comment-page-1/#comment-241</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 11:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My understanding of Mysticism is that &quot;Evil&quot; &amp; suffering only exist in a Relative sense, they only exist as part of the Dream, part of the lower levels of this Divine manifestation, and that at the higher &quot;levels&quot; everything occurs according to the Divine Will, hence all is Bliss, all is Love and Light.  Hence, Brahman is ALL!  And what is Brahman?  Sat-Chit-Ananda : Existence, Consciousness &amp; Bliss!  Sure, suffering and ignorance are an essential part of a Dualistic existence, such as ours.  Material life could not be meaningfull with Maya.  But Maya is temporary, and Brahman is eternal!
God Bless,
Hari Om</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My understanding of Mysticism is that &#8220;Evil&#8221; &amp; suffering only exist in a Relative sense, they only exist as part of the Dream, part of the lower levels of this Divine manifestation, and that at the higher &#8220;levels&#8221; everything occurs according to the Divine Will, hence all is Bliss, all is Love and Light.  Hence, Brahman is ALL!  And what is Brahman?  Sat-Chit-Ananda : Existence, Consciousness &amp; Bliss!  Sure, suffering and ignorance are an essential part of a Dualistic existence, such as ours.  Material life could not be meaningfull with Maya.  But Maya is temporary, and Brahman is eternal!<br />
God Bless,<br />
Hari Om</p>
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		<title>By: richard</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 20:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that morality is human than universal.
Humans have discovered rules that, if followed, seem to better ones chances of &#039;living well.&#039; Of coures these rules about &#039;good and bad&#039; for use are about morality.
As humans we are capabele of discovering laws about the universe that are most often amoral.  Still, we seem to be at &#039;at home&#039; in the universe. That may make it a good, moral, universes in some minds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that morality is human than universal.</p>
<p>Humans have discovered rules that, if followed, seem to better ones chances of &#8216;living well.&#8217; Of coures these rules about &#8216;good and bad&#8217; for use are about morality.</p>
<p>As humans we are capabele of discovering laws about the universe that are most often amoral.  Still, we seem to be at &#8216;at home&#8217; in the universe. That may make it a good, moral, universes in some minds.</p>
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		<title>By: Chandra M.S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chandra M.S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Such a question has unfortunately suffers from a legacy or historical drag, since I believe that in truly Vedic thought both coexist without any conflict. The 2 I refer here are: Morally neutral Universal Consciousness -- Atman or Brahman; and the Karma related Limited Consciousness -- individual self awareness.
Due to pure ignorance of the Self - Atman, Prakriti (Godhood) is &#039;born&#039; for merely the necessity of an &#039;Order&#039;. That Order is what we perceive and experience in every moment of our life and living. We see in the atom, solar system, water/carbon-cycle, cells in the body, etc. etc. This Order alone is what we must recognize as the only Basis and Foundation of Life and hence Morality of any kind. This is Law of Karma, known as Dharma. The workings of Dharma is also Universal as we experience it universally.
This Universal experience alone is what is  discussed exhaustively  in Puranas (Epics), Smritis, etc.  The Law of Karma thus is what&#039;s not understood properly today, for such a conflict to exist. If at all we take it as &#039;Exclusive&#039; from the common-denominator, which is the Unversality of its application, and hence Inclusive of and Coexistence with Atman or Brahman, without any conflict! This is the message of Vedas and Sanatana Dharma -- Hinduism.
Therefore, our Exclusivity based reasoning is what must siege in order to understand Inclusiveness or coexistence, so that the 2 are not seen as &quot;opposites&quot;.
This trend to take the 2 exclusively, narrowly focus on the differences such as ceremonial, or dogmatic concepts, etc. whats&#039; causing the endless loop of arguments going no where! This has only resulted in rancor and disagreements that are sown as seeds of violence due to the theological dogmas that it has created.
In fact these seeds of violence, despite having no such difference, continue to get bred by the present day scholars and thinkers and has thus created an atmosphere of divisions of all sorts.
My belief is that unless this seed of violence is removed from the human psyche external violence would not siege much less &#039;spirituality&#039; in its truest sense could truly grow and progress.
I&#039;m neither a pessimist nor an optimist, just a pragmatist!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Such a question has unfortunately suffers from a legacy or historical drag, since I believe that in truly Vedic thought both coexist without any conflict. The 2 I refer here are: Morally neutral Universal Consciousness &#8212; Atman or Brahman; and the Karma related Limited Consciousness &#8212; individual self awareness.</p>
<p>Due to pure ignorance of the Self &#8211; Atman, Prakriti (Godhood) is &#8216;born&#8217; for merely the necessity of an &#8216;Order&#8217;. That Order is what we perceive and experience in every moment of our life and living. We see in the atom, solar system, water/carbon-cycle, cells in the body, etc. etc. This Order alone is what we must recognize as the only Basis and Foundation of Life and hence Morality of any kind. This is Law of Karma, known as Dharma. The workings of Dharma is also Universal as we experience it universally.</p>
<p>This Universal experience alone is what is  discussed exhaustively  in Puranas (Epics), Smritis, etc.  The Law of Karma thus is what&#8217;s not understood properly today, for such a conflict to exist. If at all we take it as &#8216;Exclusive&#8217; from the common-denominator, which is the Unversality of its application, and hence Inclusive of and Coexistence with Atman or Brahman, without any conflict! This is the message of Vedas and Sanatana Dharma &#8212; Hinduism.</p>
<p>Therefore, our Exclusivity based reasoning is what must siege in order to understand Inclusiveness or coexistence, so that the 2 are not seen as &#8220;opposites&#8221;.</p>
<p>This trend to take the 2 exclusively, narrowly focus on the differences such as ceremonial, or dogmatic concepts, etc. whats&#8217; causing the endless loop of arguments going no where! This has only resulted in rancor and disagreements that are sown as seeds of violence due to the theological dogmas that it has created.</p>
<p>In fact these seeds of violence, despite having no such difference, continue to get bred by the present day scholars and thinkers and has thus created an atmosphere of divisions of all sorts.</p>
<p>My belief is that unless this seed of violence is removed from the human psyche external violence would not siege much less &#8216;spirituality&#8217; in its truest sense could truly grow and progress.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m neither a pessimist nor an optimist, just a pragmatist!</p>
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