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	<title>Comments on: The Hermetic Axiom and The Secret</title>
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		<title>By: Katinka - Spirituality</title>
		<link>http://www.allconsidering.com/2008/hermetic-axiom-secret/comment-page-1/#comment-2465</link>
		<dc:creator>Katinka - Spirituality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 07:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well no, karma is not part of the traditional hermeticism, which is what I was talking about here. Traditional hermeticism has as a main law &#039;as above, so below&#039;. Taken on the level of universal thought, the below is the individual who wants something - the universal reflecting that. But ONLY, in the best LOA teachings anyhow, when it&#039;s right FOR the whole.
I agree on your general point though: that most of those who talk about the LOA forget about the &#039;it has to reflect what&#039;s best for everybody&#039; part, and only focus on the &#039;abundance&#039; here and now. And they usually simply mean abundance of physical stuff.
However, the gratitude teachings in The Secret ARE spiritually sound I think and do balance the worst selfishness that might otherwise be generated by these teachings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well no, karma is not part of the traditional hermeticism, which is what I was talking about here. Traditional hermeticism has as a main law &#8216;as above, so below&#8217;. Taken on the level of universal thought, the below is the individual who wants something &#8211; the universal reflecting that. But ONLY, in the best LOA teachings anyhow, when it&#8217;s right FOR the whole.</p>
<p>I agree on your general point though: that most of those who talk about the LOA forget about the &#8216;it has to reflect what&#8217;s best for everybody&#8217; part, and only focus on the &#8216;abundance&#8217; here and now. And they usually simply mean abundance of physical stuff. </p>
<p>However, the gratitude teachings in The Secret ARE spiritually sound I think and do balance the worst selfishness that might otherwise be generated by these teachings.</p>
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		<title>By: Darryl Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darryl Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 13:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The so-called Law of Attraction is indeed intimately linked to the Laws of Karma and Balance (which I reckon is what you mean by the &#039;harmony&#039; of Hermeticism), which operate in/as the Unified Consciousness Field with cause-effect properties that act much like electro-magnetics (Blavatsky&#039;s, The Secret Doctrine). Thus, the abundance that one receives under the  Law of Attraction must be taken from another under not-so-much-talked-about Law of Balance. Fine.
But how does the LOA and Karma explain the suffering in the world? The Karrmic transaction  seems too unbalanced to fit the definition of &#039;Law,&#039; which should apply universally. Something is amiss.
LOA is the epitome of enlightened self-interest which does not take in account the simple common sense point of &#039;what is the best for all? Blavatsky (and before her, Phineas Parkhurst Quimby in a letter dated March, 1860)  explained the LOA in &#039;scientific&#039; terms in attempting to work out a schematic of the Divine Plan. The Law has been described and decoded many times throughout the centuries. John Dee believed that alchemy, &#039;Angel-Magic&#039;  and the divine nature of mathematics held the key to existence.  Hermeticism, with its ancient origins in magic, astrology, wisdom and knowledge - was used in the same selfish way as the proponents of the modern LOA - empowerment.
Blavatsky claimed her info came from Mahatmas who were guardians of the Divine Plan. If this is true, then there is something sinister going on in the so-called &#039;spiritual realms,&#039; because their &#039;wisdom&#039; has done doodley-squat in sorting out this world. Reminds me of  &#039;The Matrix&#039; movie more than &#039;The Secret.&#039;
As above,  so below...
Keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The so-called Law of Attraction is indeed intimately linked to the Laws of Karma and Balance (which I reckon is what you mean by the &#8216;harmony&#8217; of Hermeticism), which operate in/as the Unified Consciousness Field with cause-effect properties that act much like electro-magnetics (Blavatsky&#8217;s, The Secret Doctrine). Thus, the abundance that one receives under the  Law of Attraction must be taken from another under not-so-much-talked-about Law of Balance. Fine. </p>
<p>But how does the LOA and Karma explain the suffering in the world? The Karrmic transaction  seems too unbalanced to fit the definition of &#8216;Law,&#8217; which should apply universally. Something is amiss. </p>
<p>LOA is the epitome of enlightened self-interest which does not take in account the simple common sense point of &#8216;what is the best for all? Blavatsky (and before her, Phineas Parkhurst Quimby in a letter dated March, 1860)  explained the LOA in &#8216;scientific&#8217; terms in attempting to work out a schematic of the Divine Plan. The Law has been described and decoded many times throughout the centuries. John Dee believed that alchemy, &#8216;Angel-Magic&#8217;  and the divine nature of mathematics held the key to existence.  Hermeticism, with its ancient origins in magic, astrology, wisdom and knowledge &#8211; was used in the same selfish way as the proponents of the modern LOA &#8211; empowerment. </p>
<p>Blavatsky claimed her info came from Mahatmas who were guardians of the Divine Plan. If this is true, then there is something sinister going on in the so-called &#8216;spiritual realms,&#8217; because their &#8216;wisdom&#8217; has done doodley-squat in sorting out this world. Reminds me of  &#8216;The Matrix&#8217; movie more than &#8216;The Secret.&#8217;</p>
<p>As above,  so below&#8230; </p>
<p>Keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 17:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with what you&#039;ve written here. It watched The Secret and I noticed a definite focus on the individual; there were many testimonials from people who had used The Secret to manifest abundance, but there was no attention paid to where that abundance came from. It was said that the Secret would clear a path for the abundance to come to you, a quiet admission that the abundance is already present in the world, somewhere; but it went no farther. Where abundance comes from matters, though. What is not acknowledged is that there is a limited supply of abundance in the world, and to use The Secret to attract it without any consideration of that fact is to presume that one is more deserving of it than one who does not know The Secret; there is the attitude of, &quot;It&#039;s there, I will take it.&quot;
You mentioned that some people who are not quite so affluent may win the lottery; that would be a great turn of fortune, but sadly, many who win the lottery wind up broke very quickly. They receive a vast sum of money, but treat it no differently than they already treat their own money. Rather than conserve or even cultivate it, they squander it. This highlights the fact that no matter what, we cannot escape ourselves; even in the wake of great fortune, our outer circumstances will eventually reflect our inner circumstances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with what you&#8217;ve written here. It watched The Secret and I noticed a definite focus on the individual; there were many testimonials from people who had used The Secret to manifest abundance, but there was no attention paid to where that abundance came from. It was said that the Secret would clear a path for the abundance to come to you, a quiet admission that the abundance is already present in the world, somewhere; but it went no farther. Where abundance comes from matters, though. What is not acknowledged is that there is a limited supply of abundance in the world, and to use The Secret to attract it without any consideration of that fact is to presume that one is more deserving of it than one who does not know The Secret; there is the attitude of, &#8220;It&#8217;s there, I will take it.&#8221;</p>
<p>You mentioned that some people who are not quite so affluent may win the lottery; that would be a great turn of fortune, but sadly, many who win the lottery wind up broke very quickly. They receive a vast sum of money, but treat it no differently than they already treat their own money. Rather than conserve or even cultivate it, they squander it. This highlights the fact that no matter what, we cannot escape ourselves; even in the wake of great fortune, our outer circumstances will eventually reflect our inner circumstances.</p>
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